Tuesday, November 9, 2010

Pursuing Richards Would Mean End for Dubinsky or Callahan

Lyle Richardson at The Hockey News revives the Stars' C Brad Richards to the Rangers talk by stating that Brandon Dubinsky and Ryan Callahan's outstanding play this season has upped their price when they become RFAs next summer meaning the Rangers will have less money to pursue Richards.

Unless, as Richardson points out, the Rangers decide to sign the UFA Richards this summer over Dubinsky and/or Callahan.

...Richards (6g, 12a) is a stud player, but would signing him be worth losing Dubinsky (who looks to have turned a corner this season) and/or Callahan (the heart and soul of the team)? I'd say if Dubinsky can continue with the season he is having no way they let hom go and Callahan is obvious. At least to me he is.

...i think bringing in the 30-year-old Richards also flys in the face of the Rangers "youth movement." Plenty of young centers in the pipeline. Stay the course Glen, stay the course.

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18 comments :

SaucyJ said...

Richards is good but doing that at the expense of those 2 guys would stink of the late 90's early 2000's. I absolutely love where the team is going right now and would be disgusted if they were to do an about face and screw it all up.

The only way I could see them pulling something like that off would be to buy out the remaining year of Drury's contract.

Rick said...

Why lose Dubi and Calli- buy out the contracts of Dru and Rozi to clear up cap space and you have both White and Prospal at the ends of their contracts this year. What if Frolov doesn't pan out? There is plenty of room cap wise to resign both with a 1.5M raise each. AA and Boyle can get each a raise of 800K and 400K respectively. I see no problem.

Charlie Farrell said...

if dubinsky keeps this pace there's no way we'll be able to resign him next yeaer

evantonio said...

i think it's safe to safe Dubi will not keep this pace and end the season with 60 goals. i'm willing to bet a high-five on it. any takers?

and i agree with Saucy. richards over our young guys is sooo Glen Sather 2002.

Paul said...

Rick, funny you said if Frolov does not pan out. I hate to look into the future but I would be surprised if he pans out. At this point a liberal expectation would be 20 goals.

Gary said...

I agree with Rick. I actually think Rozy will be dealt at the trade deadline for some picks unless we're in one of the top five playoff spots. We have enough good, young d-men to fill his spot. Frolov, unless he catches fire, won't be resigned. Christensen should be bought out/ Prospal shouldn't be brought back. We'll have the cap space and I'm not completely opposed to buying out Drury unless he can regain some of his old form and generate some chemistry with a line.

LI Joe said...

charlie for dubinsky to keep this pace he'd wind up with 15 empty netters and 60 goals - don't think either is happening.

drury buyout is 3.7 next yr and 1.7 following yr (when he would have no cap hit otherwise) so helps next yrs cap but hurt following yrs cap

rozy doesn't amke any sense to buyout. instead of 5 mm next yr buyout is 3 plus need repalcement player. plus the following yr trhen has 1 mm instead of zero

so buyouts might help next yr but hurt the following yr pretty bad. woth guys like prospal, white and frolov ending contracts there s/b plenty of room to sign their own.

buying out christensen makes no sense. be 300 k each yr for 2 yrs and still need a replacement player

http://www.capgeek.com/buyout_calculator.php?Player=325&buyout_y=2011&buyout_m=06&buyout_d=15&Calculate=

LI Joe said...

and over next 2 yrs others have expiring contracts that will help. gilroy next yr and avery the following yr. key is not doing any boogaard like mistakes, or of course redden type mistakes

ET said...

We should pursue Richards only as a 1-year rent-a-player and only if we can drop Prospal, Drury, White, & maybe Christensen to make room for him. (Not sure if that’s possible; just saying it’s the only way.)
Dubinsky & Callahan should be untouchable for the foreseeable future.

LI Joe said...

well buying out drury is very expensive - he can;t just be dropped. and buyouts only happen in off season not during season

christensen is a body on roster making a little bit above minimum by 300 k or so - so he doesn;t create a lot of cap room as somebody would have to replace him on roster

by 1 yr rent a player - do you mean this yr? becasue after this yr richards will be ufa and very doubtful he signs for only 1 yr.

chef dave said...

Guys, Drury is not going to get bought out & he is not going anywhere. He has a FULL no movement clause so he cant be "Reddened". Rozival might be dealt this year but I doubt it since he still has another overpriced year left on his contract. I think with Frolov, Prospal, White, Christiansen (via trade or waivers), Eminger, Gilroy & maybe Fedotenko coming off the books naturally next year that frees up about 12.5 million plus the 1.6 million we already have in cap space. That is 14 million to sign Dubi, Cally, AA,& Boyle & maybe Sauer. The following season we will have Dru & Rozi coming off the books (although I'd be cool with Dru sticking around for 2 mil/season) to clear up another 12 million in space. As long as we stay the course we will be fine.

chef dave said...

Also, I think this is the time to lock up Dubi & Cally to longer term deals. They are home grown & we know what we're getting. Long term deals for solid, young, durable home grown players is a good thing.

LI Joe said...

chef dave i don't believe a no movmeent clause prohibits a buyout. thst is different than "reddened" or traded. besides even without the clause there is no way they would or should send him to minors. even in an off yr last yr he was still named to us olympic team and this yr he's been hurt all but 9 minutes.
drury will not be here beyond his contract in another 1 3/4 yrs

rozy will not be overpaid. his real salary next yr is 3 mm - cap hit 5 mm. so teams concerned about cap floor could be or at least should be interested in him. he would certainly not be overpaid at 3 mm.

you missed at least 1 faier sized contract ending same time as rozy and drury - and thats avery. by then he'll be around 32 so i think he's gone then too. plus we would no longer get dallas paying 1/2 his 4 mm salary.

chef dave said...

You're right about the buyout. Plus I think this team really needs Drury right now, overpaid as he is, for face off, PK & secondary scoring. Plus some leadership for the younger players. & I hope Avery, like Drury, finds a way to stick around for less money.

Charlie Farrell said...

How much do you think we offer Cally and Dubi? I say no more than 4mill/yr. I think if we give them more than that it is not worth it. Look what Giroux of the Flyers just got. 3 years less than 4mill per. No way either of them turns out to be the player that he will be. What do you think?

chef dave said...

I would say 3.5/yr sounds about right. But I would also like to see deals in the 4-5 year range. We've made a commitment already by passing up alot of trades with these two, so I think now is the time to lock them up. They are both 24 years old so signing them until they are 29 or 30 would be great(hopefully).

LI Joe said...

cally actually is 25 and they'll be 26 and 25 respectively in the spring. i can';t see them exceeding girouxs contract - his swings pretty high from yr 1 less than 3 mm to yr 3 where he gets 5 mm and that would be starting pt probably for his next contract, but a long season before we get to that. remember neither is ufa

theking said...

I was willing to see Cally or Dubi be traded for Richards but obviously now that would be a terrible decision. Cally, Dubi, and AA are the Rangers best line. You cannot break them up.I hate to break it to the people that want Drury gone its just not going to happen. So all we can do is hope Drury can come back and have a good season. I also think Rozi is playing good hockey and better than MDZ.